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Pop hitmaker Amy Allen tries to lean in to feeling uncomfortable in her songwriting

By Kira Wakeam,

Patrick Jarenwattananon, Ailsa Chang

Published December 26, 2025 at 5:36 PM EST

NPR's Ailsa Chang speaks with songwriter Amy Allen, who is shortlisted for the non-classical Songwriter of the Year Grammy Award for a second straight year.

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Ailsa Chang

Ailsa Chang is an award-winning journalist who hosts All Things Considered along with Ari Shapiro, Audie Cornish, and Mary Louise Kelly. She landed in public radio after practicing law for a few years.