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'Recess Therapy' host Julian Shapiro-Barnum talks about his new book

NPR | By A Martínez
Published August 5, 2026 at 4:45 AM EDT

NPR's A Martinez speaks with Julian Shapiro-Barnum, the host of the popular series "Recess Therapy," about his new book, "How to Grow Up Without Becoming a Grown-Up."

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A Martínez is one of the hosts of Morning Edition and Up First.
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